These Minutes should be considered a rough draft only - Megan 04/02/92

Minutes of the IP over HIPPI BOF

Reported by Andy Nicholson/Cray Research, Inc.

The purpose of this meeting was to discuss the draft of IP over HIPPI
by John Renwick and Andy Nicholson, currently available as an internet
draft, draft-renwick-hippilan-01.txt.

The meeting was well attended, including some of the members of the
ANSI X3T9.3 working group on HIPPI.  There was general agreement that
current document is very close to being ready to be promoted as a
proposed standard.

There was one point of contention, whether it is reasonable to require
that IP over HIPPI use the HIPPI LE frame header rather than simply
using another HIPPI FP ULP id.  There was general agreement that the
interoperability made possible by using LE and 802 format headers was
worth the minor extra cost of the headers.

There were some other suggestions which will be incorporated into
another draft which will be distributed in the first week of April.

- The scope should be more clearly stated

- Relax the requirement that a destination be able to buffer 68 bursts
  before accepting a connection.

- Don't require that a host know its 48 bit ULA.

- Check the ARP optimization strategy against standards and don't
  require any optimizations which could propagate incorrect
  information.

- More clearly state the ARP example.

- Discuss switch address bootstrap issues against possible changes in
  HIPPI LE or HIPPI SC.

- More discussion of what the HIPPI standards are for people who have
  not read them.

- Update the HIPPI standards references to their latest numbering.

After this draft goes out for review, if there are no substantive
changes or comments on the mailing list we will offer it to the IESG
and the IAB as a proposed standard.  However, if there is still
important discussion, we will hold a working group meeting at the
Boston IETF.

Attendees:

Andy Nicholson		droid@cray.com
Ken Hardwick		ken@network.com
Jonathan Whaley		whaley@concert.net
David Getchell		dag@llnl.gov
Lansing J. Sloan	ljsloan@llnl.gov
L. Michael Sabo		sabo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Richard Thomsen		rgt@lanl.gov
Randy Hoebelheinrich	rho@lanl.gov
Don Tolmie		det@lanl.gov
Milo Medin		medin@nsipo.nasa.gov
Cindy Bagwell		cbagwell@gateway.mitre.org
Bob Doolittle		rad@think.com
John Seligson		johns@ultra.com
Tim Salo		tjs@msc.edu
Kurt Lidl		lidl@sura.net
Paul Griffiths		griff@chang.austin.ibm.com
Dick Binder		binder@nri.reston.va.us
Holly Knight		holly@apple.com
Don Morris		morris@ucar.edu
Zorica Aramovic		zorica@sparta.com
Tom Benkart		tom@acc.com
Linda Winkler		lwinkler@anl.gov
Joseph Godsil		jgodsil@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Randy Butler		rbutler@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Stefan Fassbinder	stf@easi.net
Ron Kong		kong@wilbur.coyote.trw.com
Frances Yeh		fyeh@rafael.jpl.nasa.gov
Richard Cogger		RHX@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu
Ed Menze		menze@cs.arizona.edu
Julio Escobar		jescobar@bbn.com
Philib Almquist		almquist@jessica.stanford.edu
Noel Chiappa		jnc@allspice.lcs.mit.edu
Tony Li			tli@cisco.com
Frank Solensky		solensky@clearpoint.com
John Lekashman		lekash@nas.nasa.gov
Dean Cheng		dean@sun2.retix.com
Matt Mathis		mathis@psc.edu
Keunhee Han		khhan@garam.kreonet.re.kr
Sangchul Han		schan@garam.kreonet.re.kr
Kisung Yu		ksyu@garam.kreonet.re.kr